Philip welcomes Topher McDoughal, author of Gaia Wakes: Earth’s Emergent Planetary Consciousness in an Age of Environmental Devestation to The Deep Dive. In their conversation, they discuss the meaning of intelligence and how it connects to a living planetary system.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
The Captive’s War – James.S.A Carey

Topher’s Drop:
Staying with the Trouble – Donna J. Haraway

Gnomon – Nick Harkaway