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The Deep Dive Lab
Jacintha Kurniawan
31 episodes
5 days ago
Are you curious about the latest innovations and trends in different industries? If so, then "The Deep Dive Lab" is the podcast for you! Each episode is a thrilling ride into a different field, from tech and business to healthcare and design. Our engaging and informative conversations are designed to make complex topics accessible and approachable, whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out. So if you want to stay ahead of the curve and learn from the best, tune in to "The Deep Dive Lab" and join us on our journey of exploration and discovery!
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Are you curious about the latest innovations and trends in different industries? If so, then "The Deep Dive Lab" is the podcast for you! Each episode is a thrilling ride into a different field, from tech and business to healthcare and design. Our engaging and informative conversations are designed to make complex topics accessible and approachable, whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out. So if you want to stay ahead of the curve and learn from the best, tune in to "The Deep Dive Lab" and join us on our journey of exploration and discovery!
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Ep 23: Do AI Chatbots Suck? || Peter Swimm
The Deep Dive Lab
53 minutes 35 seconds
5 months ago
Ep 23: Do AI Chatbots Suck? || Peter Swimm

If you’re pressing "00000" to escape the bot, that's not user error - that's design failure. And it may be why people think AI chatbots suck (I don’t).


Most bots are built backwards.


Companies think "how can we handle more customers with less staff?"

Instead of "how can we actually improve customer experience”.


In this episode, I sat down with AI conversational technologist, Peter Swimm: founder of Toilville, former principal PM at Microsoft Copilot Studio, created Botkit (the framework that powered Slack and Teams bots), built AI agents for Walmart and Lowe's.


If anyone knows how to build a great conversational AI bot, it’s Peter.


What we talked about:

  • Why most bots suck (and how to make yours suck less)
  • The best chatbot experience - chatbot that rebooked his flight before he got to the gate
  • The trick to designing bots like helpful concierges, not digital roadblocks
  • The real reason people hate automation (hint: it’s not the tech)
  • The future of interfaces beyond apps and websites

Links:

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterswimm/

website: https://www.itstoilville.com/

The Deep Dive Lab
Are you curious about the latest innovations and trends in different industries? If so, then "The Deep Dive Lab" is the podcast for you! Each episode is a thrilling ride into a different field, from tech and business to healthcare and design. Our engaging and informative conversations are designed to make complex topics accessible and approachable, whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out. So if you want to stay ahead of the curve and learn from the best, tune in to "The Deep Dive Lab" and join us on our journey of exploration and discovery!