Everyone’s talking about a skilled labor shortage — but what if it’s not real? In this episode of The Deconstruction Podcast, Kosta, Johny, and Charlie sit down with Matteo Nunziata, founder of UBILD, to unpack how AI is transforming hiring in construction and why the real problem isn’t a shortage — it’s a labor utilization crisis.

Matteo shares how UBILD's AI interviewer helps contractors vet and hire skilled trades faster and smarter, while uncovering the hidden potential in today’s workforce. The crew dives deep into teaching culture on job sites, foreman-apprentice dynamics, and how technology like Jobtable and UBILD are empowering small construction businesses to compete with the big players.

This one’s a must-listen for contractors who care about growth, leadership, and staying ahead of the curve as AI reshapes the trades.

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⏱️ Chapters / Timestamps:

 00:00 – Technical difficulties & hilarious cold open
 02:00 – Introducing Matteo Nunziata & the story behind UBILD
 05:30 – From temp staffing to AI-powered hiring
 09:40 – How AI interviews and ranks tradespeople
 13:00 – The “labor shortage” myth: what’s really happening
 18:00 – Teaching apprentices vs. technical skill: the real gap on site
 27:00 – Detecting honesty, attitude & personality through AI
 33:00 – Why UBILD and Jobtable focus on blue-collar innovation
 40:00 – Overcoming fear of technology in the trades
 54:00 – Apprenticeships, incentives & passing down skills
 1:06:00 – Labor trends, falling trade rates & what’s next for hiring
 1:12:00 – The rise of AI robots and jobsite automation
 1:13:00 – Matteo’s special offer for listeners + closing thoughts