Howdy, y'all!  In part two of our three-part miniseries, we tackle Process with Malcolm Harkins.  Malcolm is former CISO at Intel, a good friend of Allan's, former Cylance Chief Trust and Security Officer, member of the board of director over at TrustMAPP (where Allan used to be COO), and is now at Hidden Layer, working to secure AI.  Hidden Layer did not sponsor this show. Allan, Drew and Malcolm discuss the following: People, process technology – what is the role of process in that triad? How do we craft good process?  What part of process definition is capturing the as-is state vs. being aspirational? How do we ensure good process is followed? When should technology drive process vs process drive technology?  Where does process traditionally fall short? What would you improve about process in general? Tell us a bit about Hidden Layer, as this is some very new technology... Thank you for listening!  Y'all be good now!