Cyber as precursor to kinetic warfare?  What about cyber AS warfare?  And social media infiltration and propaganda?  Join Allan and Drew as they invite Dave Schroeder, a renowned expert in this field, to discuss the active use of cybersecurity and social media as warfare between the Western World and China, Iraq, Russia and North Korea.  They cover: Insertion of fake IT employees into key companies Political influence operations (divide and conquer) Precursors to kinetic war being the smallest tip of the iceberg Philosophical differences between nations and governments serving themselves Cultures of trust in the West, and how those are not so self-serving This one is very sobering and perhaps the most important show of the year... Y'all be good now!