In this episode of the Cutlass Podcast, host Paul Kingsbury interviews John Hagan, the eighth Master Chief Petty Officer in the Navy. Hagan shares his journey from joining the Navy to becoming a Chief Petty Officer and ultimately to his selection as MCPON. They also talk about the influence of mentors and role models, the challenges of the drug problem in the Navy during that time, and the importance of informal discussions and peer-to-peer relationships in the Chief's mess. John also talks about the concept of success as a journey, not a destination, and the balance between the mission and taking care of people.