This week on the podcast, I am joined by Ryan and Carla Grubb, former leaders in my childhood church organization, who delve into some of the damaging beliefs and practices that eventually led them to leave their church, including wrestling with the idea that their church was the only "true" church. The conversation in this episode is inspired by the topics and themes of my book "A Jumble of Crumpled Papers".   Get your copy of “A Jumble of Crumpled Papers” here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BCD5PMX5/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=      Connect with us! Austin's Instagram: www.instagram.com/austin_noll  Podcast's Instagram: www.instagram.com/crumpledpaperspodcast  Email us at crumpledpaperspodcast@gmail.com   Get in touch with Ryan and Carla! https://www.facebook.com/ryan.grubb.735  https://www.facebook.com/carla.h.grubb