Janet Hagberg and Kelly Chatman, her friend and pastor. interview each other as an example of a way to better understand and empathize with each other’s stories about race, discrimination and faith. They both describe an example of what racial reconciliation looks like in real life. And they end the podcast with a moving example of deep racial healing. Interview questions include: What was your first experience of a white/black person? Could you give an example or two of how you have personally been discriminated against as a black person/woman? What was one of your hardest experiences with a white/black person? What was your most memorable healing experiences with a white/black person? How has your faith informed race relations for you? What would you like to say to white/black people? Would you like to share a current story of a racial conversation that has healing or reconciliation potential?