During each episode, CECE Director Dana R. Fisher will host a panel of guest experts who will share their unique perspectives on the state of climate action, the path towards more effective climate solutions, and the role that the international regime—including the annual UN sponsored Conferences of the Parties (COPs)—can and should play in getting us where we need to go.
The first episode goes live on Sunday November 9th, 2025 at 3pm. You can watch the episode directly here, or access it via our YouTube Channel or on Apple Podcasts. Guaranteed to be as effective as #COP30 (without the carbon)!
During each episode, CECE Director Dana R. Fisher will host a panel of guest experts who will share their unique perspectives on the state of climate action, the path towards more effective climate solutions, and the role that the international regime—including the annual UN sponsored Conferences of the Parties (COPs)—can and should play in getting us where we need to go.
The first episode goes live on Sunday November 9th, 2025 at 3pm. You can watch the episode directly here, or access it via our YouTube Channel or on Apple Podcasts. Guaranteed to be as effective as #COP30 (without the carbon)!

In our second episode of The COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with guest experts about the ways that climate shocks and (mal)adaptation are increasing vulnerabilities and inequalities across and within countries.
Tune in to hear from Lisa Schipper from the University of Bonn and Rod Schoonover from Ecological Futures Group as they discuss how climate change overlaps with development and security, the unintended consequences of climate adaptation, and what they expect from COP30.