In Part Two of Clint’s conversation with Patti Johnson – leadership expert, change advisor, and author of “Make Waves” – the discussion moves from starting change to sustaining it. Patti shares practical tools for balancing honesty with optimism, building trust during uncertainty, and navigating the bumps that come with any transformation. She also talks about why good leaders don’t suppress resistance, how short attention spans are changing communication, and why motivation alone won’t carry your team across the finish line. This is the second part of a two-part conversation.