The brilliant and kind Dr. Yohan John, once again joined your host, Kara Fernstrom, for this episode to talk about the power and function of metaphor – and its limitations. This engrossing conversation takes us through how metaphor works, the relationship analogy has to the scientific community, and how it functions as a useful tool for people wanting to expand their thinking.

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Warning: This Podcast contains explicit language (probably), and casual conversation about what very well might be triggering topics (also probably). Listener Discretion is advised. 

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