In this week’s episode, Kathy Jacobs, former President of Compliance Institute speaks with Dr Valerie Lyons, Chief Operating Officer of BH consulting on the value of Privacy above and beyond Data Protection. Valerie describes her own journey in Privacy and what inspired her and Todd Fitzgerald to write The Privacy Compass and also outlines what readers can expect from the book. Valerie outlines what the McKinsey 7-S Framework is, and why and how she utilised it in her Privacy Compass. Valerie explains ‘Strategy’s’ place in the 7S Privacy Compass and what good looks like. Valerie discusses ethics in privacy and describes what an ethical approach to privacy looks like. Turning to ESG, Valerie discusses in her book privacy as part of ESG – ‘ESGp’; Valerie explains this term and privacy’s place in ESG. Valerie discusses the three top skills required of a privacy leader.  Finally, Valerie provides her thoughts on the future for privacy – what the threats, challenges and also the opportunities are in privacy.