Do you ever wonder whether the messiness in your mind impacts your conversations? How on earth do you have a conversation with someone who seems to think differently from you? If coaching models and techniques feel like an impenetrable jungle, this episode is for you!   Claire Pedrick sits down with Jackie Lawlor to talk about that! Jackie shares personal stories from her early life, her experiences with neurodivergence, and how these have shaped her coaching practice. We dive into the importance of embracing human messiness and diverse perspectives, and how coaching can become more accessible to everyone.   And if you’re listening live, the next Birmingham Coaches walk is open to all professional coaches and is on 14th Nov 2025 at Lickey Hills Country Park. Details here Contact: Contact Jackie through Linked In  Contact Claire by emailing info@3dcoaching.com  or check out our Substack where you can talk with other listeners. Further Information: Subscribe or follow The Coaching Inn on your podcast platform or our YouTube Channel to hear or see new episodes as they drop. Find out more about 3D Coaching and get new ideas and offers in our weekly email. Coming Up: Book Corner with Kelly Drewery and Nathan Whitbread Harnessing AI in Coaching: Insights from Dr. Lisa Turner Keywords: coaching, clean language, neurodivergence, personal journey, future of coaching, human messiness, diverse perspectives, accessible coaching, coaching practice, communication skills, coaching techniques, leadership, personal growth, NLP, systemic modeling, coaching accessibility, coaching insights, coaching tools, coaching and counseling, playfulness in coaching   We love having a variety of guests join us! Please remember that inviting someone to participate does not mean we necessarily endorse their views or opinions. We believe in open conversation and sharing different perspectives.