
In this insightful episode of the CNL podcast, host Sedric sits down with Charles Payne, CISO and CTO at Neptune Media, who brings over 25 years of hands-on experience in cybersecurity. Charles shares his journey into the field, beginning with network security, a foundation he still recommends for anyone serious about understanding the full scope of IT.
Together, they explore the hard truths of the cybersecurity world, including the myth of total security. As Charles puts it, “If you want something 100% secure, just power it off.” He offers a clear-eyed perspective on today’s threats, from unknown vulnerabilities to the often-overlooked dangers of insider threats, particularly in financial services.
Charles also emphasizes the importance of access control, regular audits, and the growing need for purple teams to bridge gaps between defense and offense. For those entering the field, his message is simple: stay persistent and keep learning. For leaders, he encourages staying curious, open to innovation, and actively involved in shaping the future of cybersecurity.
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