If you've been on the internet in the past five years, you've seen a photo of Ben White. Ben is a good friend of the show, a fantastic photographer, a pastor with a heart for the church, and also happens to be "that guy" that you see in Christian stock photos all over the web, from Babylon Bee to ABC News. In this special bonus episode, Rob sits down with Ben to talk about his experience with shooting stock, being featured in stock, and how churches can serve the kingdom by sharing their images.