Thoropass Co-founder and CEO Sam Li joins Ben on Chief AI Officer to break down how AI is shaping the compliance and security landscape from two crucial angles: as a powerful tool for automation and as a source of new challenges requiring innovative solutions.    Sam shares how their First Pass AI feature is helping along the audit process by providing instant feedback, and also explores why back-office operations are the hidden frontier for AI transformation. The conversation explores everything from navigating state-level AI regulations to building effective testing frameworks for LLM-powered systems, offering a comprehensive look at how enterprises can maintain security while driving innovation in the AI era.   Topics discussed: The evolution of AI capabilities in compliance and security, from basic OCR technology to today's sophisticated LLM applications in audit automation. How companies are managing novel AI risks including hallucination, bias, and data privacy concerns in regulated environments. The transformation of back-office operations through AI agents, with predictions of 90% automation in traditional compliance work. Development of new testing frameworks for LLM-powered systems that go beyond traditional software testing approaches. Go-to-market strategies in the enterprise space, specifically shifting from direct sales to partner-driven approaches. The impact of AI integration on enterprise sales cycles and the importance of proactive stakeholder engagement. Emerging AI compliance standards, including ISO 42001 and HITRUST certification, preparing for increased regulatory scrutiny. Framework for evaluating POC success: distinguishing between use case fit, foundation model limitations, and implementation issues. The false dichotomy between compliance and innovation, and how companies can achieve both through strategic AI deployment.   Listen to more episodes:  Apple  Spotify  YouTube