Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8
👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts:
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Seth Fite on Sincerity in Painting, Andrew Wyeth, and Human Suffering as the Superior Subject Matter
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Seth Fite on Sincerity in Painting, Andrew Wyeth, and Human Suffering as the Superior Subject Matter
Seth Fite is a classical painter born in England, who grew up in the United States. From the new world, he is inspired by American Golden Age illustrators, Andrew and N. C. Wyeth, and the Cincinnati master Frank Duveneck. From the old world, he has studied masters such as Rembrandt and Velasquez. In 2019 he was a student of Odd Nerdrum.
Fite has been told to "find his own voice" and "do something new", as well as other clichés, but he sees little use of this. He strives to strike the vulnerable spot of humankind, the same spot found by masters before him.
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:49 Illustration and old masters
06:28 The spirit of Andrew Wyeth
11:22 Getting to know the model
15:36 "Make the eyes more sad"
22:14 Painting from memory
27:09 Andrew Wyeth's status today
30:07 The Bible, and finding the divine in things
35:43 Painting biblical motifs
40:32 Comparing Kierkegaard and Nerdrum
45:48 Reflecting the times is superficial
50:47 Nerdrum destroyed the "Art" word for me
53:17 "Sincere", "true" and "genuine"?
57:30 Joy in recognition
1:06:48 Beauty brings melancholy
1:12:32 Andrew Wyeth's popularity in the East
1:16:12 Something "below" or "behind" the motif?
1:20:07 Stuck in ancient problems
This episode featured Seth Fite & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The wall featured two paintings by Seth Fite.
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The Cave of Apelles
Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8
👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts:
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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