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The Cave of Apelles
Jan-Ove Tuv & Bork S. Nerdrum
128 episodes
7 months ago
Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Biggest takeaways so far 05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm 08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts 10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“ 12:12 Art as religion 19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes 24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom 27:29 “The descent of the artisan“ 34:41 Architecture: art or craft…? 41:49 The term “disinterestedness“ 45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“ 48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat? 55:40 Modernism 1890-1930 1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles 1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“ 1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division 1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative? 1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com
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Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Biggest takeaways so far 05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm 08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts 10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“ 12:12 Art as religion 19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes 24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom 27:29 “The descent of the artisan“ 34:41 Architecture: art or craft…? 41:49 The term “disinterestedness“ 45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“ 48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat? 55:40 Modernism 1890-1930 1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles 1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“ 1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division 1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative? 1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com
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Making Dystopia: James Stevens Curl Exposes Totalitarian Modernism and the Falsification of History
The Cave of Apelles
1 hour 36 minutes 21 seconds
2 years ago
Making Dystopia: James Stevens Curl Exposes Totalitarian Modernism and the Falsification of History
Professor James Stevens Curl is the author of the book "Making Dystopia: The Strange Rise and Survival of Architectural Barbarism". He dissects the modernist ideology as a historical phenomenon, which is not independent of the authoritarian social forces that surround it. On the contrary, Stevens Curl demonstrates that modernism became an authoritarian aesthetic ideology from early on, which eventually characterized the whole of Western culture. Where many academics in Western Europe have taken a nihilistic approach to the dystopian urban landscapes that have risen after the Second World War, James Stevens Curl chooses a firm position. As he sees it, modernism is a deeply immoral and a socially destructive project, which should be actively combated. Curl has also written extensively about Victorian architecture. Architecturally, the Victorian era was a rich era, with great building activity and saw the construction of many beautiful churches. In his newest book "English Victorian Churches", Curl explains how the European political currents of the time, British religious policy, and local engagement played a significant role in realizing this rich and beautiful architectural period." 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:33 Intro 01:48 Architecture and the surrounding landscape 05:12 “Making Dystopia”: how modernism came about 10:35 Gropius, Miese and Le Corbusier 12:41 Pevsner: “modern architecture should be totalitarian” 16:06 Totalitarian mindset and the Nazi connection 25:42 Modernist bullying and idolatry 32:38 Abandoned churches and falsification of history 44:04 The gothic style 48:33 The language of classical architecture 51:06 Defining beauty 56:56 Modernism: a disaster in every way 1:00:16 Good examples 1:07:03 Modern architecture and sculpture 1:10:26 Modernism and corruption 1:14:24 “Making Dystopia” and Curl's students 1:20:04 The role of architectural history and King Charles 1:26:42 Not just one style This episode featured James Stevens Curl & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was, on the left: a brown high-rise building under clear blue sky (photo: Dids) and on the right: St Mary's Church, Studley Royal Deer Park. (photo: Nicks-2017) SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com
The Cave of Apelles
Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Biggest takeaways so far 05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm 08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts 10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“ 12:12 Art as religion 19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes 24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom 27:29 “The descent of the artisan“ 34:41 Architecture: art or craft…? 41:49 The term “disinterestedness“ 45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“ 48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat? 55:40 Modernism 1890-1930 1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles 1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“ 1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division 1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative? 1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com