What happens when a street-smart surgeon and a no-BS survivor team up to change the rules of cancer care—forever? In this episode, we meet two people who took radically different paths to the same goal: making survivorship a right, not a privilege. Dr. Harold Freeman was a breast cancer surgeon at Harlem Hospital in the 1970s, where he saw poor Black women dying—not from advanced disease, but from late diagnoses, insurance red tape, and sheer neglect. So he stopped asking for permission. He opened clinics on Saturdays. He recruited locals, not lab coats. He created patient navigation—a now-standard model of care that started as an act of medical rebellion. Around the same time, Ellen Stovall was diagnosed with cancer at 24. She beat the disease but got no roadmap for what came next. So she made one. Ellen became a powerhouse policy advocate who took survivorship to Capitol Hill—turning personal trauma into federal testimony and leading the National Coalition for Cancer Survivorship into national prominence. Their stories collide in the 1990s, when Freeman and Stovall joined forces to push survivorship into the mainstream—from local communities to the Institute of Medicine and beyond. This episode is about two different kinds of leadership. One rooted in the streets. One forged in the halls of government. Both born from lived experience—and relentless purpose. KEY TAKEAWAYSDr. Harold Freeman pioneered patient navigation to eliminate care barriers in marginalized communitiesEllen Stovall reframed survivorship as a lifelong concern, not a postscript, and brought that urgency to WashingtonNavigation started as civil disobedience; it’s now a pillar of cancer careEllen’s policy work helped transform Freeman’s local idea into a national standardTogether, they showed that care must be accessible and accountable—and that survivorship is both a clinical and human rights issueFreeman and Stovall exemplified two ends of advocacy: community action and policy change FEEDBACK Like this episode? Rate and review The Cancer Mavericks on your favorite podcast platform. Explore more at https://cancermavericks.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.