I had no idea the first episode with Rory Kilmartin would explode the way it did — it quickly became one of the most downloaded shows we’ve released for a while. So I brought him back. This time, we go even deeper into the archetypal patterns shaping how we lead, build teams, and scale businesses. We unpack why communication breaks down, why trust erodes, and why even the best strategy won’t work if your human operating system is out of sync. If you’ve ever felt friction with your team, struggled to hire the right people, or hit a wall trying to scale or exit — this episode will shift something. It did for me. Rory Kilmartin is a researcher, philosopher, and creator of the Human Operating System — a framework that helps leaders understand the deep archetypal patterns driving behaviour, conflict, and performance. His work has changed how I see leadership, and I think it will do the same for you. Let’s be real — if you’re drowning in day-to-day crap, you’ll never scale or exit. The Exit Playbook is your ticket out of the chaos. Learn how to stop being your own bottleneck and start leading like a boss. It’s free, no email required and no BS. Grab it now: https://adamstrong.notion.site/The-Exit-Playbook-Shift-from-Operator-to-Visionary-Leader-220f5f71e63b80bc91a0d7e0ca050c82?source=copy_link Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Archetypal Constructs 03:44 Understanding the Four Archetypes 06:26 Strengths and Weaknesses of Archetypes 09:09 The Importance of Communication Styles 12:04 Navigating Conflicts Between Archetypes 14:53 Real-World Applications of Archetypal Wisdom 17:41 The Role of Archetypes in Leadership 20:37 Creating a Cohesive Team Environment 34:24 Understanding Behavioural Archetypes in Business 43:24 The Challenges of Business Exits for Founders 48:07 Navigating Personal and Professional Archetypes 53:59 The Power of Archetypal Wisdom in Leadership 01:02:50 Transforming Relationships Through Archetypal Understanding 🙏 How To Support The Business Strategist 🎙️ If this is the first time you’re listening congrats, if you like today’s episode please subscribe, listen and leave a review on 👉 Apple, Spotify ABOUT THE GUEST https://www.facebook.com/rorykilmartin https://www.instagram.com/rorykilmartin/ https://www.youtube.com/rorykilmartin https://x.com/RoryKilmartin FREE Masterclass https://archetypalrelationships.com/Masterclass  ABOUT THE HOST LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamistrong YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/adamstrong Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices