In this grown and grounded episode of The Business of Pleasure, I’m joined by Ro from the 237 No Place Like Home podcast—a Brooklyn husband, father, and real one with insight for days. This convo is for anyone wondering what intimacy looks like when you’ve been committed for the long haul—and why the mindset of a mature man hits different than the typical “young dude energy.” We talk about what it means to show up for your partner and your community, how Black men can model intimacy and leadership for younger generations, and the responsibility that comes with love, growth, and longevity. Ro breaks down how he keeps things fresh in marriage, what intimacy really means to him, and why it’s deeper than sex—it’s legacy. We also explore the difference between being performative vs. being present, how emotional awareness shapes connection, and why seasoning your sex life isn’t just about toys—it’s about effort, creativity, and care. 🛍️ BK Products Featured:     •    Head to Body Body Balm – because touch matters     •    Embrace C-Ring – for couples looking to spice things up and stay connected This episode is full of gems from a man who’s living it, not just talking about it.