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EP 85 The Mom Test: How to Get Honest Feedback for Your Business Idea
The Business Book Club
13 minutes
3 weeks ago
EP 85 The Mom Test: How to Get Honest Feedback for Your Business Idea
Episode Summary
In this episode of The Business Book Club, we dive into one of the most practical guides to early-stage validation: The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick. If you’ve ever walked away from a “great” customer conversation, only to build something that flops—this book is for you.
Fitzpatrick delivers a simple but powerful framework to avoid the feel-good lies and false signals that sink so many startups. You’ll learn how to ask better questions, read between the lines, and separate compliments from actual commitment.
Whether you're pitching a product, refining your idea, or figuring out if your business has legs—this episode will rewire how you talk to customers forever.
Key Concepts Covered
🧠 The Core Problem: False Positives Kill
Bad data isn’t the biggest threat—good-sounding data that’s not real is worse.
People lie to be polite (especially your mom). It’s on you to ask better.
✅ The Three Rules of The Mom Test
Talk about their life, not your idea.Keep it grounded in their actual experience.
Ask about specifics in the past, not hypotheticals or opinions.“Would you buy this?” is worthless. “How did you solve this last time?” is gold.
Listen more than you talk.Shut up. No pitching. You're digging for truth, not selling.
💣 The Three Types of Bad Data
Compliments: Social grease, not validation. Deflect and re-anchor to facts.
Fluff: Vague predictions or "I’d definitely buy" statements. Anchor back to past behavior.
Feature Requests: Don’t just build them. Ask why they want it.
🧪 From Learning to Commitment
Once you've gathered real insights, test for commitment. If they won’t invest something (time, risk, reputation, cash), they’re probably not serious.
Types of commitment:
Time – trial usage, product demos, real time investment
Reputation – intros to others, internal referrals
Cash – pre-orders, letters of intent, deposits
🔍 Customer Slicing
Start with a very specific who + where to avoid mixed signals. Don’t pitch to “students.” Pitch to “third-year mechanical engineering students at XYZ university.”
😰 Ask the Hard Questions
What are the three questions you're afraid to ask because a “no” would hurt?
Ask them anyway. You’re not validating genius—you’re searching for fatal flaws early.
Actionable Takeaways
✅ Never ask, “Would you buy this?” — ask what they’ve done before✅ Redirect compliments back to the customer’s real behavior✅ Validate problems first—solutions come later✅ Push for commitment: time, intros, or money✅ Start with a narrow, specific segment of users✅ Face your scariest assumptions head-on
Top Quotes
📌 “Good customer conversations aren’t about being liked—they’re about being honest.”📌 “If you didn’t learn anything, it wasn’t a good conversation.”📌 “The real enemy of customer development is false validation.”📌 “You aren’t allowed to blame the customer—you asked the wrong question.”📌 “Learning bad news early is a win.”
Resources Mentioned
📚 The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick – [Get the book here]
Final Thought
The hardest part of customer discovery isn’t the interview—it’s the emotional discipline to hear what you don’t want to hear. This book gives you the tools to face that discomfort, ask the right questions, and build something people actually want—not just something they politely compliment.
The truth is in the details. Go find it.
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