In this incredibly powerful episode of the Business As Mission Podcast, host Mike Baer sits down with two incredible partners: Simon, a local entrepreneur in Southeast Asia, and Mark, an investor from Australia. They share the inspiring story of how a single high-value crop—Sacha Inchi—combined with a faith-filled vision and strategic partnership, is fundamentally changing the lives of 1,500+ farming families.
Learn how Simon went from starting with zero resources to building a sustainable agribusiness that provides stable income for hard-working villagers, earns the trust of the local government, and serves as a platform to spread hope through community development projects like children's homes and women's programs.
This conversation highlights the vital role of Agribusiness as Mission (BAM), focusing on:
Overcoming the challenge of cashflow management and finding stable markets.
The importance of relational partnerships over quick financing.
Breaking the "colonial model" by building a local value chain and processing high-value products like Sacha Inchi milk.
How to find and nurture local, godly entrepreneurs ("Simons") ready for growth.
Hear the full story of integrity, partnership, and impact that is a beautiful blueprint for Business as Mission success worldwide!
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Join Mike Baer for a high-energy conversation with Herbert Severin, the new CEO of Marketplace and Development Enterprises (MDE), a pioneering professional services firm supporting the global Business as a Mission (BAM) movement. Herbert shares his powerful personal story of transitioning from traditional church ministry to the marketplace, realizing his true calling to be a minister in the business world.
Discover MDE's critical role in the BAM ecosystem, providing a "soup-to-nuts" support system for entrepreneurs and Disciple Making Employees (DMEs) in least-reached countries. Herbert explains MDE's three tiers of volunteer support—Bam Team Managers, Faculty Advisors, and Missional Mentors—who provide essential business, technical, and spiritual accountability to combat the high attrition rates and isolation faced by practitioners in the field.
Herbert lays out an exciting vision for the future, including creating scalable "BAM in a box" models and acquiring businesses to rapidly increase opportunities for called leaders. This episode is a vital call to action for anyone who senses a divine invitation to use their business skills for the Kingdom and a profound reminder that you don't have to navigate the entrepreneurial journey alone.
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Diana Fritz shares her powerful journey of turning a rare cancer diagnosis and the loss of an eye into a unique opportunity to inspire and serve others. In this deeply moving and candid conversation, she discusses her book, Uniquely Imperfect, Uniquely Qualified, and reveals the mindset and faith that allowed her to refuse to let a physical challenge define her identity. Learn about her work as an executive coach and consultant, focusing on building strong, authentic company cultures and leading with a genuine belief in people.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone facing adversity, seeking to lead with authentic vulnerability, or looking for ways to cultivate a purpose-driven life and culture—in business and beyond. Diana’s story is a powerful reminder that we have the freedom to choose how we respond to life's toughest challenges.
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In this episode, Mike Baer sits down with Aubrey Tozer, a key leader of the Business as Mission (BAM) movement in Canada. Aubrey, a former corporate executive, shares his remarkable journey from a faith-in-work professional to a passionate advocate for BAM. He recounts how an exploratory trip to Africa ignited a vision for using business for kingdom purposes, leading him to help found BAM Canada and connect with global movements.
Aubrey and Mike discuss the incredible growth of BAM, emphasizing that it's a worldwide movement, not just a Western one. They share powerful lessons from their recent trip to Cameroon, highlighting how local leaders, academics, and even government officials are embracing business as a tool for national and spiritual transformation.
This conversation is a powerful encouragement for anyone who feels called to engage in missions but isn't sure where to start. Aubrey's core advice is to simply "go and see," trusting that God will use your unique business background and experiences to show you where He is already at work.
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In this special episode, Mike Baer sits down with Kingsly Jini, a marketplace leader and entrepreneur from Cameroon. Kingsly shares his powerful journey, from a college student struggling with faith to becoming a founding member of the Business as a Mission (BAM) movement in Cameroon and a key leader in CBMC Africa.
Kingsly discusses his journey of discipleship, emphasizing that it's a long-term relationship, not a program. He shares a powerful, and at times messy, testimony of how God taught him to surrender everything, including his business, during the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. He explains how this experience, rooted in the concept of Ubuntu ("I am because we are"), has fueled his mission to empower a new generation of entrepreneurs to live out their faith.
This conversation is a must-listen for any Christian in business who feels overwhelmed or disconnected from their faith at work. Kingsly’s story is a profound reminder that our work is a high and holy calling—a pulpit from which we can impact our communities and change our nation for Christ.
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In this special episode, Mike Baer sits down with Joel Schuler, a leader at the Anglican Missionary Society (NAMS) and a dear friend he's only ever met online. Joel, a former tech professional turned ministry leader, shares his unique journey and the profound importance of discipleship in the business world.
Joel makes a compelling case for a different understanding of discipleship—one that is intentional, biblical, relational, and replicable. He argues that business is the perfect environment for this, as it provides a natural context for day-to-day interactions and shared life. Joel challenges the common misconception that discipleship is reserved for pastors or that it's a formal curriculum. Instead, he presents a simple yet powerful model based on the life of Jesus, emphasizing the importance of shared meals and consistent time together.
This conversation is a must-listen for anyone in the business as mission space, offering practical encouragement to stop waiting for the "perfect moment" and start living as a disciple maker right where you are.
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Can real estate really be a mission tool?
Join Mike Baer and a seasoned real estate investor-turned-entrepreneur as he shares the remarkable story of leaving behind a successful career and a hundred short-term trips to build a hospitality business as mission.
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Can a construction company in Pakistan really make a kingdom impact?
Join Mike Baer and Ameet Gabrial, CEO of ZOR Engineers, one of the oldest Business as Mission (BAM) companies in the world, for a powerful conversation about faith, integrity, and perseverance.
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Don’t miss this inspiring episode on building a business that lasts and glorifies God.
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Can patents really reflect God’s design for human flourishing?
Join Mike Baer and Jim Edwards, founder of Elite Strategic Services and author of To Invent Is Divine, for a fascinating conversation on the biblical roots of creativity, ownership, and innovation.
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Don’t miss this powerful episode showing how faith, law, and innovation intersect to build a world where people and communities thrive.
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Can agriculture really transform communities?
Join Mike Baer and Ron, a third-generation farmer turned entrepreneur, for a powerful conversation on using farming to bring hope and stability to isolated villages.
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Why agriculture is key to building community and addressing rural poverty.
How Ron is creating an economic solution to keep families together.
The importance of restoring dignity and honor through merit-based employment and fair practices.
How consistent integrity and a focus on relationships are breaking down generations of prejudice. Don’t miss this testimony of how business can be a force for good.
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Join us as we talk with Steve Cleary, founder of Revelation Media, about a new era of "media as mission." From his journey making the film,.
The Pilgrim's Progress, to his current project, I Bible, Steve shares how he's leveraging technology to reach a world of oral learners. We explore the challenge of a "print world" mindset and the power of animation to bring the biblical narrative to life in places where traditional ministry cannot go.
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How do you build a business that makes a real kingdom impact?
Join Mike Baer and Larry Sharp for a deep dive into the traits of successful businesses as mission (BAM) companies. In this "duo cast" episode, they get real about the journey, sharing stories from around the world.
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Join us on the Business Mission Podcast as we welcome Sebastian Vaduva, a professor and entrepreneur with a powerful story of faith and resilience. From growing up in Communist Romania and immigrating to the U.S. to founding multiple businesses and returning to his home country to lead a university, Sebastian’s journey is a testament to God's grace and purpose.
In this episode, we dive into:
The profound role of necessity as a driver for entrepreneurship.
The unique challenges and opportunities of integrating discipleship and academia.
The biblical call for business professionals to see their profession as their pulpit.
Why technology, including AI, presents a critical opportunity for Christians to be at the forefront of innovation.
The vital role of the diaspora in global missions and rebuilding nations.
Sebastian shares his advice for the next generation on finding purpose and creating jobs, emphasizing that our ultimate responsibility is to "go make disciples." This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about a new era of business as mission, where Romania and the broader Eastern European region are emerging as a sending force for the global church.
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Join Mike Baer and Rob Duncan, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and Certified Investment Management Analyst (CIMA®), as Rob shares his powerful journey from a finance career to impactful overseas mission.
Discover how his 25+ years of financial expertise, now at Global Impact Wealth Management, LLC (), underscores the vital need for business wisdom on the mission field. This episode will inspire you to consider how financial flexibility can unlock God's greater purpose in your life, no matter your stage.
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In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Mike Baer is joined by Steve Rundle—economist, professor, and one of the early voices shaping the Business as Mission (BAM) movement.
They explore the deep integration of theology, economics, and entrepreneurship, challenging the idea that ministry and business are separate callings. Steve shares insights from decades of teaching and research, speaks to common misconceptions about BAM, and offers honest reflection on the evolution of the movement.
Whether you’re an academic, a practitioner, or just wondering if business really has Kingdom potential—this episode is packed with wisdom, history, and faith-rooted clarity.
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In this powerful solo episode, Mike Baer dives deep into the core purpose of Business as Mission (BAM), expanding on the traditional "fourfold bottom line" of financial, societal, spiritual, and environmental impact. He introduces a compelling "fifth bottom line": a renewed focus on engaging the unreached people groups of the world.
Mike explains why traditional missionary models often can't reach these difficult-to-access areas, and how real businesses, by bringing economic and social value, are uniquely welcomed globally. He shares inspiring stories of how God is bringing the unreached directly to believers' workplaces, from factories in British Columbia to furniture businesses in Jakarta, employing people from some of the largest unreached groups.
This episode is a bold call to action, challenging every believer—whether an entrepreneur, employee, or professional—to ask God how their calling can be connected to reaching those who have virtually no access to the Gospel. Discover how your business can be a strategic tool for global discipleship and community transformation, fulfilling the Great Commission in the 21st century.
If you're ready to align your work with God's global purpose, this message is for you.
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Join Mike Baer and special guest Dirk Cameron as they dive deep into the transformative world of Business as Mission (BAM). Dirk shares his incredible journey from a traditional CPA career to becoming a pioneering business missionary, revealing how he learned to integrate faith and entrepreneurship for global impact. Discover the power of 'job creation missions' and how businesses can be a strategic platform for advancing the Gospel, especially in unreached areas. This compelling conversation explores the challenges of isolation and financial stress faced by those in mission, and the vital importance of community and dependency on God. Learn how to bridge the sacred-secular divide and find your place in what God is doing through business worldwide. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a professional, or simply seeking to align your work with a higher purpose, this episode offers profound insights and actionable steps. Don't miss Dirk's vision for bringing the US economy closer to frontier markets through outsourced talent and services.
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In this powerful episode of the Business as Mission podcast, Mike Baer sits down with Deidre Gestrin, founder of Abundant Wellness Essentials and author of Burnout to Balance. Deidre shares her deeply personal story of burnout from 15 years in mental health—and how God led her through physical collapse into a place of restoration and purpose.
They unpack how stress impacts your entire being—mind, body, and spirit—and why working from rest, not chaos, is God’s design. Deidre introduces her model of the 7 Dimensions of Wellness, centered on spirituality, and shares how simple practices like intentional breathing and community can radically change your health and mission.
Whether you're a business owner, missionary, or overwhelmed leader, this episode will meet you where you are—and help you take the first step toward balance.
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In this compelling episode, Mike Baer sits down with Brian Albright, professor at Trinity Western University, to explore a journey that spans continents, calling, and crisis.
From his early entrepreneurial drive to his transformation in Kenya doing NGO and hospice work, Brian opens up about how God reshaped his theology—from a narrow view of salvation to a holistic understanding of mission. He shares his struggle to reconcile business with faith, and how the tension between profit, purpose, and family tested everything he believed.
You’ll hear about the challenges of creating a sustainable hospice business model in Kenya, the painful sacrifices of family life, and the moment COVID forced his family to evacuate and reset their lives. But through it all, Brian discovered a deeper truth: that authenticity and obedience often speak louder than success.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone wrestling with the integration of mission, business, and personal cost.
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In this episode of the Business as Mission podcast, Mike Baer sits down with Chad Hufford—wealth manager, author of Forging Financial Freedom, and a passionate voice for Biblical stewardship. From his roots in Alaska to his calling in financial coaching, Chad unpacks the powerful mindset shift Christians need to break free from scarcity and anxiety around money.
They explore how poor financial stewardship can derail even the most passionate missions, the importance of discipline, and how financial freedom isn’t about early retirement—but unlocking your God-given purpose. Whether you're in ministry, business, or somewhere in between, this conversation offers practical and spiritual wisdom for stewarding finances with eternal impact.
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