Burnout isn’t a personal failure it’s often a systems problem. In this honest, grounded conversation, Sophie sits down with Katrina, a regenerative coach and strategist, to unpack why so many high performers end up exhausted in cultures that reward output over capacity…and what it takes to rebuild.
In this episode:
What regenerative leadership really means (beyond KPIs, pizza Fridays, and “earning” rest)
How to spot the gap between what a company encourages and what it actually rewards
The difference between being a winning horse vs. a workhorse
Trauma-bonding at work vs. resourcing each other for real change
Practical boundaries that prevent collapse (starting with “Do you have capacity for this?”)
Treating teams like a nervous system and using culture signals to recalibrate before burnout hits
Key idea: “You can’t heal in a system designed to keep you in survival mode.” If your body’s telling you the truth, listen.
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About Katrina De Angelis:Katrina is a regenerative coach and strategist helping leaders rebuild their relationship with work by restoring balance, trust, and nervous system awareness. Follow her on Instagram @katrina.deangelis.