In 1974, the artist Philippe Petit embarked on an illegal high-wire walk across the Twin Towers, which resulted in a great degree of notoriety that has followed him ever since.

Philippe talks to Erica Wagner about his struggle to break free of that fame and his desire to be recognised for his many creative endeavours, rather than just being the ‘man on wire’.

Erica also talks to bestselling novelist Nathan Hill about living in face of extreme weather, and the uncanny commodification of relaxation.

Philippe's To Reach the Clouds was published by Orion in 2022

Nathan Hill’s Wellness, was published by Picador in September 2024

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