In this episode Lisa talks to the incredibly accomplished Kathryn Smith with a long list of credits to her name including Football Develeopment Manager at Manchester FA, non executive director at Rotherham United Community Trust & Oldham Active, professional footballer and 3W referee and qualified teacher and coach. Under discussion is the topic of making shifts in your career, doiig what you want, going against the grain and generally being a kick ass woman! brave, because in our lives we are going to need to be super brave to change jobs, have a very difficult conversation, do things that people say you can’t do and go against the grain!   This Podcast is sponsored by Mobsta. Placing brands in perfect moments, with multi-channel digital activation, fuelled by behavioural data intelligence and superior location knowledge. https://mobsta.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/mobsta/ https://www.instagram.com/mobsta_ltd/ Guests:  Kathryn Smith Bio: Non Executive Director, Trustee & Management Exec, EDI Lead Kathryn Smith | LinkedIn Host: Lisa Hughes founder & director of LIsa Hughes Coaching Web:https://lisahughescoaching.com/ Insta:: @ LIsaHughesCoaching Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices