What if money doesn’t just buy things but actually changes how we think?



In this episode, I talk with Helena Andrejko, an Australian psychotherapist who works with individuals and couples, as well as a psychedelic-assisted therapist trained to use psilocybin and MDMA for trauma and depression treatment in regulated medical settings. She splits her time between her therapy practice and her work in the Bitcoin space.

We discuss how money can shape human consciousness, the overlap Helena sees between therapy and decentralization, and how trust functions differently in fiat and Bitcoin systems. Helena also shares why she believes Bitcoin challenges old power dynamics and what that could mean for how people relate to truth, pain, and authenticity.

You’ll Learn:

• The surprising link between money and human consciousness
• What it feels like to balance psychotherapy with being a Bitcoiner
• The real reason trust can’t be mandated in money systems
• Why fiat money mirrors a parent-child dynamic
• What happens when centralized authorities decide what truth is
• The quiet damage of relying on monetary “heroes” for protection
• How Bitcoin shifts trust from institutions to math and code
• The role pain plays in growth and authenticity within decentralized systems
• What history shows us about dissent, truth, and the cost of challenging power

Timestamps:

[00:00] Introduction

[06:40] How Helena connects therapy and Bitcoin through decentralization

[08:55] The link between the invention of coinage and abstract thought

[15:10] Why fiat money mirrors a parent-child trust dynamic

[23:40] The hero, villain, and victim roles in money systems

[29:00] How CBDCs and centralized decisions place people in the victim role

[30:20] Why Bitcoin liberates authenticity by breaking old power structures

[37:00] What history teaches about dissent and the cost of truth

[39:10] How Bitcoin changes our relationship with pain and self-reliance

[44:30] Why Bitcoin’s rules create boundaries without central authorities

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Resources Mentioned:

The Dao of Bitcoin by Scott Dedels | Book or Audiobook

Richard Seaford | About

Yuval Noah Harari | Website

Byung-Chul Han | About

Learn more about Helena on her website and follow her on LinkedIn.

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