For this episode we have another Jam session. We start off discussing AI, and chatGPT. It's been a fascinating topic as of late, and Dap discusses his theory on how it will play out, and how it could further drive Bitcoin adoption. From there we in a quick macro larp, breaking down the rise in interest rates and how it could affect US debt payments. We get into a disagreement over the importance of Strike's work in onboarding merchants onto lightning, and finally we close with a quick rundown on ordinals and NFTs on Bitcoin with hope to dive deeper into the ordinals discussion and develop some more nuanced takes. We hope you enjoy the episode. Be sure to follow us on twitter and instagram @suresats.