Ever wondered how to keep your creative spark alive for decades? In this episode, Chris chats with Bill O'Hanlon, a man who's worn many hats - from psychotherapist to bestselling author to prolific songwriter! Bill takes us on a journey through his career, showing how playfulness has been the secret sauce in his professional longevity. He shares how he's navigated multiple career pivots, always following his "energy meter" to stay engaged and creative. But it's not all about career moves - Bill dives deep into how playfulness can enhance learning, therapy, and even songwriting. He spills the beans on co-writing sessions (or should we say "play dates"?) and how embracing fun has made him a better songwriter. We also get a peek into Bill's childhood, where his family's irreverent humor laid the groundwork for his current playful approach to life and work. He contrasts this with periods in his life where playfulness took a backseat, reminding us how crucial it is for our overall wellbeing and creativity. Chris and Bill wrap up by chatting about the balance between security and change, and how doing "one thing different" can spark creativity and personal growth. Want to keep up with Bill's adventures in writing and songwriting? You can find his books on Amazon or check out his songs on Spotify. If you want to find out how you score on the Three Pillars Playfulness Scale, you can take the FREE online assessment here