We talk about how we take bananas for granted, how you get me-time with a small baby knocking around, the right ways to talk about food with your children, the potential pitfalls of bypassing childcare for the first few years of your baby's life, listening to music, walking in the rain and snow and paternity and maternity leave in the US.

We don't talk about COVID 19 or how we both once did an outstanding karaoke performance of Shania Twain's 'That Don't Impress Me Much'. Which is a shame.

We do chat 'sometimes food', camel toes, getting on the floor and really mucking about with your kid, how we're not very good at doing that, pet names, Cameron Diaz, how you think you know a lot about parenting before you actually have a child and how that can make you a bit of a dick.

There's also an extended metaphor in there about ducks and ducklings. Sorry about that.