In this episode I sat down with Dr. Marshall Clark, president of the Society for Pentecostal Studies and lecturer at Vanguard University and the London School of Theology. Dr. Clark shared her background growing up in a migrant church in England, her PhD research on female spirituality within Pentecostalism, and the significant roles women have played as 'disruptors' in religious history. Our conversation touches on biblical figures like Deborah and modern disruptors such as Amy Semple McPherson and Mary Woodworth Etter, highlighting their impact without engaging in theological debates about their roles. The episode explores how these women overcame societal and racial barriers to fulfill their callings, and how contemporary leaders can support and empower women in ministry.