In this episode of the Art of Making Art podcast, I sit down with Joyce Lubotzky, an artist whose practice has evolved from ceramics and photography to painting and conceptual art. Now based in Clovelly, Australia, Joyce delves into her journey from South Africa to her current work, which focuses on environmental issues and the societal impact of plastic waste. Joyce discusses her thoughtful approach to using different materials, her interest in still life and objects, and how her Master's research led her to recontextualize discarded plastic as meaningful artistic pieces. The conversation also touches on the challenges and misconceptions of being a conceptual artist, the importance of surrounding oneself with a supportive community, and the ever-present need to keep creating despite hurdles. This episode offers a deep dive into the mind of a multifaceted artist passionate about making impactful work using unconventional materials. 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:34 Joyce's Artistic Journey 02:40 Exploring Still Life and COVID Impact 04:25 Waste Collection and Master's Research 06:56 Conceptual Development and Materiality 17:54 Challenges and Misconceptions of Being an Artist 23:02 Balancing Art and Business 31:10 Finding Opportunities and Future Goals 34:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts This episode was brought to you by The Artist Business Lounge.  Until the end of April, you can grab the Artist Social Bundle at a 20 percent discount. Use the code PODCAST20 https://offer.theartistsbusinesslounge.com/social  Don't miss this opportunity to elevate your online presence and connect with your audience more effectively. Episode blog post: www.christinalowryartist.com/podcast/episdoe-eleven-joyce-lubotzky Joyce's website: www.joycelubotzky.com.au