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The Art of Charm is where self-motivated people, just like you, come to learn from the company’s coaches about to how to master human dynamics, relationships, and becoming your best self with the help of Johnny and AJ, the company’s founders. Johnny and AJ bring their 11 years of coaching experience from their famous Bootcamps, where they host clients in Los Angeles from all over the world and they share their stories, best practices and themselves on this weekly podcast. Not only does The Art of Charm help everyday people, including active members of the military, learn how to become higher performers, better spouses, partners, and coworkers, they dig deep into human behavior, the science behind it, and demystify what we do and why we do it.
The Secret Purpose of Small Talk (and How to Use It to Build Instant Connection) [Social Intelligence Brief]
The Art of Charm
23 minutes
1 week ago
The Secret Purpose of Small Talk (and How to Use It to Build Instant Connection) [Social Intelligence Brief]
Most people dread small talk. But in this episode of Social Intelligence, AJ and Johnny explain why it’s not about the weather, jobs, or generic questions—it’s about emotional connection. Discover the science of “emotional bids,” a concept from Dr. John Gottman that unlocks deeper conversations and lasting influence.
AJ shares a real story of using this skill at a high-stakes networking event, while Johnny shows how emotional validation can turn awkward exchanges into moments that matter. Whether you’re meeting new people, trying to stand out in a crowd, or just want to feel more socially confident, this three-step framework will change the way you communicate forever.
What to Listen For:
[00:00:00] Why most people hate small talk—and why they’re wrong
[00:02:20] The hidden purpose of small talk: emotional diagnostics
[00:03:37] How memory and conversation are tied to heightened states
[00:05:25] AJ’s breakthrough moment at a high-profile DC event
[00:07:16] Emotional bids explained with real-world examples
[00:09:35] The 3 types of responses to emotional bids
[00:10:39] Why validation increases trust and influence
[00:11:35] Johnny’s "tin can" metaphor for relationship-building
[00:13:36] Client story: From frozen out to followed up
[00:14:39] The 3-step formula to transform small talk into deep talk
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The Art of Charm is where self-motivated people, just like you, come to learn from the company’s coaches about to how to master human dynamics, relationships, and becoming your best self with the help of Johnny and AJ, the company’s founders. Johnny and AJ bring their 11 years of coaching experience from their famous Bootcamps, where they host clients in Los Angeles from all over the world and they share their stories, best practices and themselves on this weekly podcast. Not only does The Art of Charm help everyday people, including active members of the military, learn how to become higher performers, better spouses, partners, and coworkers, they dig deep into human behavior, the science behind it, and demystify what we do and why we do it.
