We’re often told joy is a reward that we have to earn by working hard or taking care of others or something that comes after everything else on our to-do list.

But what if joy wasn't the end goal, but something to be experienced regularly.

In this episode, we’re getting real about joy. The sudden, disarming moments that crack through the heaviness. The laugh that sneaks out in the middle of heartbreak. The tenderness of your favorite song on a bad day. The ridiculous meme that makes everything feel just a little bit more bearable.

We talk about how joy coexists with sadness, why it can feel scary to let yourself be happy, and how many of us are holding our breath waiting for the other shoe to drop.
This isn’t an episode about “choosing joy.” It’s about noticing it. Letting it in. Even just for a moment.

If you’ve been feeling like joy is something you’ll get to eventually… this conversation might be the reminder you didn’t know you needed.

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