In this episode, we sit down with Altamush Saeed, an interspecies justice lawyer, educator, and nonprofit leader who is reshaping how Pakistan thinks about animals, people, and the environment. From being rescued by a cat named Mau, to leading community dog feeding campaigns during COVID, to organising large-scale rescues during Pakistan’s 2022 floods, Altamush’s story shows how deeply human and animal lives are intertwined in times of crisis.He reflects on how trauma, climate change, and compassion intersect, and why he believes food systems, human rights, and animal rights must be understood together. Drawing on his faith, Altamush explains why factory farming is impermissible under Islamic principles of mercy and stewardship, and shares how training Imams to deliver Friday sermons on animals and the environment is sparking grassroots change across communities.Along the way, he discusses founding Pakistan’s first disaster-zone farm animal shelter, creating the country’s first Animal Law course, and building a broader vision of interspecies justice that moves beyond cats and dogs to include all beings. This is a powerful conversation about resilience, responsibility, and reimagining justice for a more compassionate future.Please subscribe to get notified about our next podcast!
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Podlet Guest
Name: Altamush Saeed LLM
email: earcpak@gmail.comchaltamushsaeed@gmail.comaltamush@charitydoings.org
PodCrew
Dr. Kris Hill PhD Candidate, University of Exeter
https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/
Dr. Michelle Szydlowski
www.internationalelephants.org
@intl_elephants
Sarah Oxley Heaney
PhD Candidate, University of Exeter