After retiring from her law career, Lucie Frost found herself stuck on the couch, drinking too much and binge-watching 90 Day Fiancé. She knew there had to be more — so she got curious.

That curiosity led her to unexpected passions, deep self-discovery, and ultimately to writing her book, How the Hell Did I Not Know That? My Midlife Year from Couch to Curiosity. In this conversation, Lucie shares how sobriety became the through line in her journey, allowing her to confront hidden struggles like depression, let go of societal expectations, and find joy in small, everyday things.

We talk about how curiosity can be a powerful off-ramp from alcohol, the importance of community and connection in sobriety, and why life after drinking can be rich, fulfilling, and full of joy — without the extremes.

This is a lovely, inspiring conversation about not giving up, getting curious, and discovering how big and beautiful life can be when you get out of your own way.

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