On this episode of The Agile for Agilists Podcast, Drew Podwal and Brad Nelson are joined once again by Todd Hallowell for a candid conversation about the current state of Agile and what it really means to practice agility in today’s organizations.

Together, we unpack the tension between traditional project management approaches and true Agile thinking—exploring the fallacy of control, the evolving role of business analysts, and the often-blurry line between product and project management. We also touch on leadership’s role in shaping Agile culture, how AI is influencing decision-making, and why purpose-driven agility matters more than ever.

If you're navigating Agile transformation, questioning frameworks, or just trying to lead with more clarity and intention—this episode is for you.