Join hosts Brad Nelson and Drew Podwal as they welcome the esteemed Esther Derby, renowned for her work on retrospectives and her deep insights into leadership. In this episode, they delve into the evolution of management practices, reflecting on the dark past of traditional approaches and how they have shaped modern leadership paradigms.

Esther shares her profound wisdom on fostering effective leadership, the importance of creating the right environment, and navigating the complexities of managing teams in today’s dynamic settings. Known for her storytelling prowess, Esther engages listeners with compelling narratives and practical advice.

Brad and Drew don't hold back on the tough questions, challenging Esther to provide insights into the world's management woes. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion with one of the industry's most respected voices, and discover practical strategies for driving success in your organization.