How can the church respond to injustice and discrimination? In this episode Hannah and Brian are joined by Lisa Koons, an activist, spiritual director, and 24-7 Prayer USA’s National Director of Mission and Justice. She shares about the joy of communion with God and brings rich insight into how she practices His presence in her life, as well as her response to the dark night of the soul, before moving into a wider conversation about the church’s response to injustice. Speaking with particular reference to racial discrimination in the United States, yet with wisdom for the whole of the church, Lisa talks about the practical steps we can do to confront injustice in our unique contexts. This gracious and hope-filled conversation covers many questions - what does ‘unity in diversity’ really mean, and can it happen in the church? Does the call for justice distract from message of the gospel? How do we persist in pursuing change without burning out? Towards the end of the podcast, Lisa answers a question about expanding our reading list to include voices from people of colour. These are the teachers and theologians that she mentions: J.T. Thomas Octavia Albert Vincent Bacote Brian Bantum Charles Octavius Boothe Keith Augustus Burton Kelly Brown Douglas