Tim and Stephen discuss the 2011 sports/biography/drama Moneyball, currently streaming on Netflix. Why? Because a pound of Philip Seymour Hoffman is 10 pounds of presence. What's the origin story of this script with two massive writers credited on it? Why is Stephen obsessed with this movie? Why would Hoffman take on a small part at the peak of his career? How does a writer write something for presence? How do you find your people AND stay open to new creative relationships? All that and more in this eleventh episode of "That's That: A Philip Seymour Hoffman Retrospective Podcast."

This episode's guest is friend, playwright, and Moneyball fanatic Stephen Farron-Smith. Check out his website at www.stephenbrownplaywright.com, buy his hilarious and heartwarming play Everything is Super Great here, and listen to the scripted podcast series that Tim and Stephen created together called Little Montgomery here. 

"That's That" is sponsored by One County Film Company, produced and hosted by Timothy Mark Davis, edited by Ryan Arnst, with show music composed by Jessica Rae Huber, and artwork by Drew Hanagen. Additional music from Borrtex. 

You can pick up The Duplass Brother's book, Like Brothers, here. 

Our next episode is on the 2002 independent drama/comedy Love Liza, currently streaming on Amazon Prime. Our guest will be friend, playwright, collaborator, and fellow movie lover Luis Roberto Herrera.