In this episode I sit down with Heather Smith—Certified IFS therapist and founder of The Moxie School®—to explore the profound intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and psychedelic-assisted healing. Heather shares her deeply personal path into both IFS and psychedelics, sparked by a lifelong inquiry: How do people truly heal? Together, we dive into the ways psychedelic experiences can deepen parts work, the essential role of Self-energy in lasting transformation, and why healing doesn’t come from the medicine—but from within. _________________________ We Explore: Heather’s journey into IFS and expanded states of consciousness The deep synergy between IFS and psychedelics How MDMA can amplify Self-energy The power of witnessing parts in altered states Why preparation is non-negotiable before a medicine journey The consequences of skipping the prep and integration process The role of the IFS Self-led guide in enhancing psychedelic journeys What “integration” really means—and why it’s the completion, not the afterthought The myth that the medicine does the healing (hint: it’s your Self that does) Whether you’re a seasoned guide or curious about combining inner parts work with psychedelic tools, this episode is a must-listen. _______________________ About Heather Smith Heather Smith is a visionary in the field of psychedelic healing, uniquely bridging Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with expanded states of consciousness. A Certified IFS therapist (Levels 1–3) and frequent Program Assistant, Heather is the founder of The Moxie School®, where she trains facilitators in IFS-informed psychedelic support. Through immersive retreats and training programs, Heather empowers others to deepen their self-leadership, refine their facilitation skills, and embody the healing work at the deepest level. ___________________________ Resources & Links 🌐 Visit Heather’s work: www.moxieschool.com ✨ New Offering: How To Journey – An IFS-Informed, Self-Guided ExperiencePrepare, navigate, and integrate expanded states with over 20 hours of content—guided meditations, journaling prompts, and IFS teachings.💫 Just $197 USD → Click here to purchase _________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*