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Welcome to the rerelease of That Early Childhood Nerd! This episode originally aired in 2017...back then the podcast was called Cause an Effect. A lot has changed since then, including the host's name (from Heather Wenig to Heather Bernt-Santy) but we hope you will tune in!
In this episode, Heather is joined by Travis (Taggart) Manley to talk through something Lisa Murphy said in a text chat: "I won't be out of work until we treat our children as good as we treat our pets."
