In this interview Renos speaks about his experience of St John’s school in Tallinn, its sense of community. He believes that all educators who work with young people should keep in mind that the best way to teach young people values is for adults to practice these values themselves, and what matters is not to try to solve others’ problems but to understand them. Sometimes it seems that young people live in a different universe with different rules and regulations, but we have to meet them there. He uses the expression of Margaret Mead to call children “immigrants in time”, points out that differences between generations are not insurmountable. To deal with difference does not mean see it as a problem. He refers to his work on trauma and resilience, showing that in every stage of our life, even during the pandemic, we can find an opportunity to understand what this situation opens up, what opportunity it presents, and how bad situations enable people develop a lot of positive responses. Professor Renos K Papadopoulos is Director of Centre for Trauma, Asylum and Refugees (University of Essex), Jungian Psychoanalyst. Honorary Clinical Psychologist and Systemic Psychotherapist at the Tavistock Clinic, London. He has two books out recently Involuntary Dislocation: Home, Trauma, Resilience and Adversity-Activated Development Moral Injury and Beyond: Understanding Human Anguish and Healing Traumatic Wounds. This podcast aims to inform and support families and teachers who are interested in holistic education. It is hosted by Holistic Education Foundation (fond.pjk.ee), which has been created under auspices of St John’s School in Tallinn, whose mission is to promote balanced and holistic approaches to children’s education and development, through creating material conditions, organising conferences, providing scholarships, and helping teachers all over the world to learn more about the unique model of St John’s School. Our foundation invites you to support the building of St John’s School by a small donation here fond.pjk.ee/donate. Thank you! *** Intervjuus kõneleb Renos oma elamustest seoses Tallinnas asuva Püha Johannese Kooliga ning seal kogetud kogukonna tundega. Ta usub, et kõik noortega töötavad õpetajad peaks meeles pidama, kuidas parim viis noortele väärtuste õpetamiseks on käituda ise samade väärtuste järgi ning püüdest lahendada kellegi teise probleeme, loeb enam soov neid mõista. Vahel tundub, et noored elavad kusagil teises universumis, kus kehtivad teistsugused reeglid ja korrad, kuid me peame nendeni ulatuma. Renos kasutab lastest rääkides Margaret Meadi väljendit "ajas rändavad immigrandid" märkides, et põlvkondade vahelised erinevused pole ületamatud. Erinevustega tegelemine ei tähenda, et neid peaks nägema probleemina. Viidates oma senistele töödele traumast ja vastupidavusest toob ta esile, kuidas igas meie eluetapis, isegi pandeemia ajal, suudame leida võimalusi mõistmaks, milliseid avanemisi olukord pakub, milliseid võimalusi kätkeb, ja kuidas keerulised olukorrad loovad palju võimalusi leidmaks sobivaid vastuseid. Taskuhäälingu kutsus pöördelisel ja võimalusterohkel epideemiakriisi ajal ellu Püha Johannese kooli juures tegutsev Tervikliku hariduse fond (fond.pjk.ee), kelle missiooniks on toetada elusa ja tervikliku hariduse arengut ning aidata rajada terviklikku kooliruumi nii füüsilises kui ka väärtusruumi mõttes. Toeta Püha Johannese kooli oma koolimaja ehitamist pisikese püsiannetusega: fond.pjk.ee/toeta Suur aitäh!