Welcome to the “Tech Policy Grind” podcast by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry!  In this episode, Foundry Fellow Katelyn Ringrose sat down with Jay Stanley, Senior Policy Analyst, at the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, to discuss Jay’s work on aerial surveillance law and policy, with a spotlight on the work that the ACLU is doing to keep you safe from eyes in the sky. While these two drone on about aerial surveillance (no pun intended), check out some of the resources listed below. This episode will be part of a mini-series on surveillance law and policy with some amazing future guests, so thank you for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Katelyn engaged with this episode by the Internet Law & Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions they are affiliated with. Bios: Jay Stanley started working on privacy and technology issues at the ACLU five weeks before 9/11. His role at the ACLU is to help the organization think through, monitor, and explain the impact of new technologies on our privacy, free speech and other civil liberties. He has worked on a wide variety of cutting-edge science and technology issues and authored and co-authored a variety of influential ACLU reports, policy papers, and blog posts. Among his current areas of focus are aerial surveillance, digital identity, digital currency, and license plate scanners. Before joining the ACLU, he worked as an analyst at the technology research company Forrester Research, and did graduate studies in 20th century American history at UVA (ABD). As Google’s Global Policy Lead for Law Enforcement and Government Access, Katelyn Ringrose works on any and all issues tied to data governance. Prior to her current position, Katelyn served as the Future of Privacy Forum’s Christopher Wolf Diversity Fellow — working on data privacy and security. Through the International Association of Privacy Professionals, Katelyn holds CIPM, CIPP-EU, and CIPP-U certifications & is a 2021 Fellow of Information Privacy. Katelyn was chosen as a 2022 Out in National Security Leader, and is a former board member for Women in Security and Privacy (WISP) in Washington, DC. She writes about issues tied to state/federal privacy legislation; sensitive personal data; and appropriate safeguards for cross-border transfers. Find Katelyn’s law reviews and articles in Berkeley Tech Law Journal, Berkeley Law Review, Denver Law Review, Notre Dame Journal of Emerging Technology, Notre Dame Law Review, on IAPP and FPF’s websites, and more. Resources: ACLU White Papers Eye-in-the-Sky Policing Needs Strict Limits Press on surveillance in the sky ‘Drones as first responders’ programs need guardrails, says ACLU Key drones-related court cases ACLU v. CBP – FOIA Case for Records Relating to Government’s Aerial Surveillance of Protesters Leaders of a Beautiful Struggle v. Baltimore Police Department