Microsoft doesn’t just allow you to leave Calling Plans—they’ve built tools to help you do it. That’s not a glitch in the strategy. It is the strategy.

In this episode, Max Clark sits down with Steve Forcum, Director of Marketing at SIPPIO, to explore the future of voice inside Microsoft Teams—and why legacy models like Cisco UC and Microsoft Calling Plans no longer fit. From the Operator Connect evolution to one school’s decision to remove 700 phones, they cover the shifting landscape of UC in real-world environments.

You don’t need a desk phone to have a voice strategy. But you do need to hear this.