In this episode, Thandwa & I relax and chat like two friends do over a cup of tea whilst we tell stories which highlight the necessity of love and the necessity of war through tools of storytelling such as poems, excerpts, film scenes, tinganekwane, musical compositions and any other expression of stories where individuals absolutely had to wage wars or insist on love as a revolutionary tool. This conversation involves an analysis on the importance of storytelling and how it does an incredible job of reminding us to be alive.