Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?
For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.
Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.
You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.
I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.
Watch the full video version of this episode on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-clipse-of-138611501?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Starr Rocque @starr_rocque
Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi
Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ
00:00 intro
1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers
3:47 Growing up with The Clipse
8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap
11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"
13:10 The Black Women problem
17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse
23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina
24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice
28:20 Give us nothing Nas!
29:25 Ageism
40:09 André 3000
44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal
48:46 Colorism
58:47 Christianity
1:09:51 Journalism
1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop
1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in
1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve
1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk
1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL
1:57:17 Big sibling energy
2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine
Email me teawithqueenandj@gmail.com
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Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?
For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.
Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.
You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.
I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.
Watch the full video version of this episode on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-clipse-of-138611501?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Starr Rocque @starr_rocque
Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi
Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ
00:00 intro
1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers
3:47 Growing up with The Clipse
8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap
11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"
13:10 The Black Women problem
17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse
23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina
24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice
28:20 Give us nothing Nas!
29:25 Ageism
40:09 André 3000
44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal
48:46 Colorism
58:47 Christianity
1:09:51 Journalism
1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop
1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in
1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve
1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk
1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL
1:57:17 Big sibling energy
2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine
Email me teawithqueenandj@gmail.com
Support
Paypal: www.paypal.com/paypalme/teawithqj
Patreon: www.patreon.com/teawithqj
If you're a Black feminist, a womanist, a Black radical, a liberationist, a radical liberationist or a womanist race nerd, somebody you know, (somebody you may trust) been talking about not voting. We get to the bottom of what it means to vote or not vote during a genocide, how the desire to be liked manifests itself in liberation movements, and why some of your faves been moving like closeted voters this election cycle.
As a Black femme centric podcast we almost never discuss Tr*mp. Our lives are bigger than what yt mehn be trying to do to us. He is discussed in this episode as a presidential candidate (and a d*mon bc bffr), but this episode is not about how Twump so scawy. It's about liberatory strategy and the role of electoral politics.
Also, Mayor Eric Adams, an NYC rat (make that comma do whatever you need it to), VP Kamala Harris' biracial identity and how we should feel about it, President Obama and his cousin Pookie, and mad other election related ish.
Watch the video version of this episode on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/posts/election-episode-114786447?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Queen & J. are two womanist race nerds dismantling white supremacist patriarchal capitalism one episode at a time. Drink up!
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 Recording while wearing pants
03:00 Electoral politics... why?
05:13 Mayor Eric Adams and NYC's trash/rat problem
20:30 Mayor David Dinkins would never
21:42 Presidential Election
23:25 Voter apathy
26:21 Voting or nah during a genocide
30:10 Post-election 2016
35:43 What is the strategy for liberatory minded non-voters
47:33 Are you exercising a vibes-only politic
49:42 The cool kids, cliques and being liked in liberation movements
52:00 President Obama, Black men voters & "cousin Pookie"
1:09:43 VP Kamala Harris and Black media's obsession with the silk press
1:15:19 VP Harris bi-racial identity, misogyny/noir & xenophobia
1:19:53 Black voters and the "voting for them just bc they're Black" allegations
1:24:15 Final thoughts on VP Harris
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This episode was created, hosted, and produced by Naima Lewis Muhammad & Janicia Francis, with editorial support from Jonathan Luna,
Opening song by Ohene Cornelius