Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?
For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.
Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.
You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.
I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.
Watch the full video version of this episode on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-clipse-of-138611501?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Starr Rocque @starr_rocque
Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi
Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ
00:00 intro
1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers
3:47 Growing up with The Clipse
8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap
11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"
13:10 The Black Women problem
17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse
23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina
24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice
28:20 Give us nothing Nas!
29:25 Ageism
40:09 André 3000
44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal
48:46 Colorism
58:47 Christianity
1:09:51 Journalism
1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop
1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in
1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve
1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk
1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL
1:57:17 Big sibling energy
2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine
Email me teawithqueenandj@gmail.com
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Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?
For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.
Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.
You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.
I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.
Watch the full video version of this episode on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-clipse-of-138611501?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Starr Rocque @starr_rocque
Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi
Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ
00:00 intro
1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers
3:47 Growing up with The Clipse
8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap
11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"
13:10 The Black Women problem
17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse
23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina
24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice
28:20 Give us nothing Nas!
29:25 Ageism
40:09 André 3000
44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal
48:46 Colorism
58:47 Christianity
1:09:51 Journalism
1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop
1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in
1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve
1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk
1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL
1:57:17 Big sibling energy
2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine
Email me teawithqueenandj@gmail.com
Support
Paypal: www.paypal.com/paypalme/teawithqj
Patreon: www.patreon.com/teawithqj
On this episode… bell hooks, one of the greatest thinkers of our time recently passed away leaving us to explore her legacy and its impact on our intersections of Black womanhood. Our friend and activist Diamond Stylz joins J. this week to discuss Blackademia, the reality tv icon Nene Leakes (it’s important!), and to reflect on Insecure and an era of television that will be referenced for years to come.
Queen & J. are two womanist race nerds dismantling white supremacist patriarchal capitalism one episode at a time. Drink up!
This week’s hot list: we fvcking survived 2021, pay Black Transwomen Inc., we bingeing The Witcher, possible awkward C*sby show reference, bell hooks, street feminism, “femininity”, Laverne Cox, “problematic” but “important” questions, Nene Leakes and navigating grief & trauma on the blogs (she in these streets with a new boo all quick!), that Insecure glow up, Diamond is tired of Lawrence’s shit, J. might be lowkey #teamlawrence and ready to fight Nathan, and more about Kelli
Libations: 3:57
Donation Libations: 7:03
Affirmations: 11:25
bell hooks: 12:22
Grieving in public and should we be in Nene’s business?: 45:25
Insecure and last minute ass Lawrence (SPOILERS): 1:02:38 - 1:30:20
Spoiler free Insecure reflections: 1:30:20
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Check out bell hooks and Laverne Cox in conversation at The New School: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oMmZIJijgY
This week’s closing clip features recent ancestor bell hooks on what it means to be feminist. Full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpdJUGn0FHE
This episode was created, hosted, and produced by Naima Lewis Muhammad & Janicia Francis with special guest host Diamond Stylz, editorial support from Candice Jones, social media & production support from Channél Jordan, and graphic design by Jo Caraballo
Libations to our friend’s Domingo, Tokunbo, and D. Sindayiganza who help keep this show running by paying and supporting Black women.
Opening song by Ohene Cornelius
Segment Music by Chad Milner
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