Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?
For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.
Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.
You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.
I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.
Watch the full video version of this episode on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-clipse-of-138611501?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Starr Rocque @starr_rocque
Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi
Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ
00:00 intro
1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers
3:47 Growing up with The Clipse
8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap
11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"
13:10 The Black Women problem
17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse
23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina
24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice
28:20 Give us nothing Nas!
29:25 Ageism
40:09 André 3000
44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal
48:46 Colorism
58:47 Christianity
1:09:51 Journalism
1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop
1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in
1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve
1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk
1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL
1:57:17 Big sibling energy
2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine
Email me teawithqueenandj@gmail.com
Support
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Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?
For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.
Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.
You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.
I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.
Watch the full video version of this episode on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-clipse-of-138611501?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Starr Rocque @starr_rocque
Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi
Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ
00:00 intro
1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers
3:47 Growing up with The Clipse
8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap
11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"
13:10 The Black Women problem
17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse
23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina
24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice
28:20 Give us nothing Nas!
29:25 Ageism
40:09 André 3000
44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal
48:46 Colorism
58:47 Christianity
1:09:51 Journalism
1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop
1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in
1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve
1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk
1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL
1:57:17 Big sibling energy
2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine
Email me teawithqueenandj@gmail.com
Support
Paypal: www.paypal.com/paypalme/teawithqj
Patreon: www.patreon.com/teawithqj
On this episode… It’s how to get away with murder. The internet shares their disappointment about the Kyle Rittenhouse acquittal. Should we feel a public sadness? What impact does the killing of white protesters have on allyship? And on a much needed lighter note, fun nerd sh!t and a game changing moment in Black hair
Queen & J. are two womanist race nerds dismantling white supremacist patriarchal capitalism one episode at a time. Drink up!
This week’s hot list: Use your PTO, Anime NYC, nerd judgement, Stranger Things, birthdays, Kyle Rittenhouse, white supremacy and the internets reaction, anti-protest laws, synthetic hair’s life cycle and mad other ish
EPISODE TIMESTAMPS
Libations: 3:15
Donation Libations: 14:14
Affirmations: 15:58
Kyle Rittenhouse timeline of events: 18:29
Acquittal and internet reaction: 26:29
A moment in (synthetic) Black hair: 1:12:01
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J. mentions the idea of “lone wolf” terrorism in this ep, but we have a more in depth discussion about domestic terrorism on episode #278 Issa Coup. Conversation starts around minute 18:41 https://soundcloud.com/tea-with-queen-and-j/278-issa-coup
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MOMENT IN BLACK HAIR
The Wig Station Recycle Program: https://thewigstation.com/recycling/
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This week’s closing clip features Gayle King Interviewing Jonathon Majors, for the movie ”The Harder They Fall” https://www.instagram.com/tv/CV_g2NJgb-y/?utm_medium=share_sheet
This episode was created, hosted, and produced by Naima Lewis Muhammad & Janicia Francis with editorial support from Candice Jones, social media & production support from Channél Jordan, and graphic design by Jo Caraballo
Libations to our friend’s Domingo, Tokunbo, and D. Sindayiganza who help keep this show running by paying and supporting Black women.
Opening song by Ohene Cornelius
Segment Music by Chad Milner