If you’ve been following carbon, you probably know who Lawson Steele is by now. Lawson has worked in various utility investment analysis guises, achieving top survey ratings in each capacity: European utilities analyst (and followed EUETS carbon market since 2004), Latin American utilities analyst, Global utilities strategist, and Global utilities specialist sales. In this episode we focus on the EUETS and Lawson’s new startup Kakubi. 01:25 We open the conversation with a brief history of the EUETS and how it differs from the voluntary carbon market 05:19 The stability of the EUETS 08:48 Where we are in the cycle on EUAs 15:05 What is Kakubi? 25:43 Will Article 6 or voluntary credits ever play a role in EUA pricing? 29:44 Are there any plans for voluntary credit tokens on Kakubi? 33:30 How does Lawson see the energy picture moving forward If you liked Lawson’s perspectives, or would like to take a look at Kakubi, you can find the links for Lawson’s social media accounts as well as Kakubi’s site below! Kakubi: https://kakubi.com Lawson’s Twitter: @LawsonSteele3 Lawson’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawsonsteele/?originalSubdomain=uk Thanks for watching/listening!